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07/13/2022 10:00 AM House LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                       LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
                          JULY 13, 2022                                                                                       
                            10:00 AM                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                            
   Representative Sara Hannan, Chair                                                                                          
   Senator Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair                                                                                          
   Representative  Matt Claman                                                                                                
   Representative  Bryce Edgmon                                                                                               
   Representative  Louise Stutes                                                                                              
   Representative  Cathy Tilton                                                                                               
   Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                  
   Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                      
   Senator Shelley Hughes (alternate)                                                                                         
   Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                     
   Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                        
   Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                             
   Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                 
   Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                       
   Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                      
   Representative David Eastman                                                                                               
   Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                
   Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                   
   Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   AGENDA                                                                                                                     
   APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                         
   COMMITTEE BUSINESS  EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   SPEAKER REGISTER                                                                                                           
   Jessica Geary, Executive Director, Legislative Affairs                                                                     
   Agency (LAA)                                                                                                               
I.  Call to Order                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
10:05 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HANNAN  called the Legislative  Council meeting  to order at                                                            
10:05am  in the Denali Room  at the Anchorage  Legislative  Office                                                            
Building.  Present  at  the  call  were  Representatives   Claman,                                                            
Hannan,   Stutes,   Tilton,  Tuck;   Senators   Hoffman,   Hughes,                                                            
Micciche, Reinbold, Shower, Stedman.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
Eleven members present at the call.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
Representative Edgmon joined the meeting at 10:22am.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
II. Approval of Agenda                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
10:06:42 AM                                                                                                                 
VICE  CHAIR  REINBOLD  moved  and  asked  unanimous  consent  that                                                            
Legislative Council approve the agenda as presented.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
The agenda was approved without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
III. Committee Business  Executive Session                                                                                    
      a. Matters Relating to Legislator Social Media Accounts                                                               
                                                                                                                              
10:08:07 AM                                                                                                                 
VICE  CHAIR  REINBOLD  moved  and  asked  unanimous  consent  that                                                            
Legislative Council  go into Executive Session under  Uniform Rule                                                            
22(B)(1),  discussion  of  matters,  the  immediate  knowledge  of                                                            
which would  adversely affect  the finances  of a government  unit                                                            
and  22(B)(3),  discussion  of  a  matter  that may,  by  law,  be                                                            
required  to  be  confidential.  The  following   individuals  may                                                            
remain in the  room or online for  the Executive Session:  Jessica                                                            
Geary,  Sant?  Lesh, Megan  Wallace,  Emily  Nauman,  Alex  Foote,                                                            
Angela Stephl,  any legislators  not on  Legislative Council,  and                                                            
any staff of Legislative Council members.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
10:08:54 AM                                                                                                                 
A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
YEAS:  Representatives  Claman,   Hannan,  Stutes,  Tilton,  Tuck;                                                            
Senators Hoffman, Hughes, Micciche, Reinbold, Shower, Stedman.                                                                
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: None.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 11-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
10:09:38 AM                                                                                                                 
Council went into Executive Session.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
1:04:34 PM                                                                                                                  
Council came out of Executive Session.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
1:04:46 PM                                                                                                                  
A roll call vote was taken to establish a quorum.                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
Representatives  Edgmon,  Hannan, Stutes,  Tilton, Tuck;  Senators                                                            
Hughes, Micciche, Reinbold, Shower, Stedman.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Ten members present.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN asked  Ms. Geary to  speak about  the working  draft                                                            
on Legislative Council's Social Media Policy.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
JESSICA  GEARY,  Executive  Director of  the  Legislative  Affairs                                                            
Agency  (LAA),  said that  Legislative  Council  was  tasked  with                                                            
updating the Social  Media Guidelines. These guidelines  were last                                                            
updated September  2011, much has  changed in the world  of social                                                            
media,   and   the  Select   Committee   on   Legislative   Ethics                                                            
recommended  that the policy be updated,  specifically pertaining                                                             
to comments. LAA reached  out to the National Conference  of State                                                            
Legislatures,  Council of  State Governments,  and administrators                                                             
in other states for information  on what legislatures  have social                                                            
media  policies  and how  they  handle  legislative  social  media                                                            
activity.  LAA  modeled  the  working  draft under  consideration                                                             
after the Colorado Legislature's social media policy.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
She said in  essence there is no requirement  for a legislator  to                                                            
have  a  social  media  account,  either  official   or  personal;                                                            
however, if a legislator  chooses to have a personal  social media                                                            
account, it is recommended  to not post about legislative  matters                                                            
on that  personal account  because it could  open that page  up to                                                            
scrutiny  and may be considered  a government  account or  limited                                                            
public  forum. In  other words,  personal and  legislative  social                                                            
media  pages should  be kept separate.  She said  to mitigate  the                                                            
risk that a  personal account will  be interpreted as an  official                                                            
account,   legislators  should   maintain   the  highest   privacy                                                            
settings,  not make a personal  account available  to the  public,                                                            
and designate  it as a  personal accountnot   public or  official.                                                            
A personal account  should not have the appearance  of an official                                                            
or public account,  should not include  official email addresses,                                                             
and should not ask for feedback about legislative matters.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Ms. Geary said  that if a legislator  chooses to have an  official                                                            
account,  the recommendation  is that they  consider it more  of a                                                            
bulletin  board account where  they post  information, but  do not                                                            
allow  dialogue which  does not  allow for  a public  forum.  If a                                                            
legislator  chooses  to use  a social  media page  as an  official                                                            
account and  allows people to engage  regardless of what  is being                                                            
written, whether  it is hateful or defamatory, the recommendation                                                             
is to not delete,  block, or hide.  She said,  everything  goes or                                                            
nothing goesis the safest way to avoid risk of litigation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Ms. Geary said if a member  is sued based on information  on their                                                            
social  media page,  the courts  will  apply different  tests  and                                                            
this  is  the   safest  recommendation.   She  directed   members'                                                            
attention  to  a  warning  contained  in  the  policy  that  if  a                                                            
legislators   use of  a social media  account  does not adhere  to                                                            
the recommendations  outlined  above, the  legislator assumes  all                                                            
risks and responsibilities  for any  litigation that results  from                                                            
that  choice. She  stated  that she  and Legal  Services  Director                                                            
Megan Wallace were available for questions.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
VICE  CHAIR  REINBOLD  expressed  concerns  about  constitutional                                                             
rights  for privacy  and  freedom  of speech,  that  she  believes                                                            
there needs to be decorum  on social media platforms  and has many                                                            
questions about those platforms.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  stated  that  the  policy  should  include                                                            
definitions  for an  official account   and "personal account"  to                                                            
delineate  the difference, as well  as  legislative matters,   for                                                            
which no definition  exists in statute as far as  he is aware, and                                                            
which may mean  something different  in the area of social  media.                                                            
He also wanted clarity  on the definition of  legislative  staff.                                                             
He further  suggested  that  the policy  be edited  to delete  the                                                            
sentence  that states  it is not  a requirement  for a legislator                                                             
to  have a  social  media account,  as  legislators  already  know                                                            
that.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
MS. GEARY thanked  Representative  Edgmon for his suggestions  and                                                            
agreed that defining some  of the terms would help make the policy                                                            
clearer and lead to less confusion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR HUGHES  stated that the policy needs work,  and she is not                                                            
ready to  approve it. She  does not agree  with the limits  placed                                                            
on personal  accounts  and feels  she would  be enabling  criminal                                                            
action  by  not  blocking   certain  comments,  such   as  violent                                                            
threats,  on social media,  and that  it would  be a liability  to                                                            
the Legislature  to leave some comments  up. She also stated  that                                                            
some legislators  need to have access  to the comments  to connect                                                            
with  their  constituents,  which  could be  an  equal protection                                                             
issue,  and the   all  or nothing   policy  is not  feasible.  She                                                            
suggested  there  be a  warning  system in  place  for commenters                                                             
before blocking them on social media.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN reminded the committee  that this is a working draft.                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR HUGHES  thanked the committee  for the work that  has been                                                            
done, but stated  that those working on it do not have  the social                                                            
media experience  that she has and  that she believes there  needs                                                            
to be input from legislators.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN   agreed  that  they   will  be  taking   notes  and                                                            
considering legislators feedback about the policy.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
VICE  CHAIR  REINBOLD  said  she  agreed   with  the  comments  of                                                            
Representative  Edgmon and Senator Hughes and cannot  approve this                                                            
policy in its  current draft form.  She does not believe  that the                                                            
Legislative  Ethics Committee should  be creating this  policy but                                                            
that it should be the legislators.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
IV. ADJOURN                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
1:29:29 PM                                                                                                                  
CHAIR HANNAN  said with  nothing further  to come before  Council,                                                            
the meeting is adjourned.                                                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2022.06.27 Working Draft--Social Media Policy LEGAL REVIEWED.pdf JLEC 7/13/2022 10:00:00 AM